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Katharine Murphy talks to Fiona Simson, president of the National Farmers’ Federation, about how farmers attitudes towards climate change are evolving. Simson says dissenters need to ‘get out of the way’ of creating an energy policy framework for the future and calls on politicians to ‘stop picking winners’ and put their trust in the market. Plus, what’s the future for live exports and why more women are needed in politics ‘We’ve turned a corner’: farmers shift on climate change and want a say on energy